diff --git a/crates/botloftd/src/approvals/mod.rs b/crates/botloftd/src/approvals/mod.rs
index db43c1be..3201ab9d 100644
--- a/crates/botloftd/src/approvals/mod.rs
+++ b/crates/botloftd/src/approvals/mod.rs
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ use botloft_core::chat::{
 use botloft_core::command::tool_explanation;
 use botloft_core::ids::{ApprovalId, BotId, ChatItemId};
 use botloft_core::protocol::{
-    AllowScope, Approval, ApprovalItem, ApprovalStatus, ApprovalsAnswerParams, ChatBody,
+    AllowScope, Approval, ApprovalItem, ApprovalStatus, ApprovalsAnswerParams, ChatBody, ChatItem,
 };
 use botloft_store::ApprovalRecord;
 use serde_json::Value;
@@ -103,12 +103,7 @@ pub(crate) async fn ask_with(
     tool_use_id: &str,
     opened: impl FnOnce(&ApprovalId),
 ) -> Option<Answer> {
-    let pending = open(daemon, bot, tool_name, input, tool_use_id)?;
-    let (answer, waiting) = oneshot::channel();
-    daemon
-        .approvals
-        .lock()
-        .insert(pending.record.approval.id.clone(), answer);
+    let (pending, waiting) = open(daemon, bot, tool_name, input, tool_use_id)?;
     opened(&pending.record.approval.id);
     daemon.supervisor.approval_opened(bot, generation);
     let mut guard = Guard {
@@ -220,14 +215,15 @@ struct Pending {
     record: ApprovalRecord,
 }
 
-/// Saves the request and puts it in the chat.
+/// Saves the request, waits for its answer and puts it in the chat, in
+/// that order: the owner may answer as soon as the chat shows it.
 fn open(
     daemon: &Daemon,
     bot: &BotId,
     tool_name: &str,
     input: &Value,
     tool_use_id: &str,
-) -> Option<Pending> {
+) -> Option<(Pending, oneshot::Receiver<Decision>)> {
     let now = daemon.clock.now_ms();
     let approval = Approval {
         id: ApprovalId::generate(),
@@ -245,17 +241,35 @@ fn open(
         tool_explanation(tool_name, input),
         always::scope_of(tool_name, input),
     );
-    let item = items::add(daemon, bot, ChatBody::Approval(shown))?;
+    let item = ChatItem {
+        id: ChatItemId::generate(),
+        bot_id: bot.clone(),
+        body: ChatBody::Approval(shown),
+        created_at: now,
+        updated_at: now,
+    };
     let record = ApprovalRecord {
         approval,
-        chat_item_id: item.id,
+        chat_item_id: item.id.clone(),
         tool_use_id: tool_use_id.to_owned(),
     };
-    if let Err(err) = daemon.store().insert_approval(&record) {
-        warn!(bot = %bot, "could not save an approval: {err}");
-        return None;
+    {
+        let store = daemon.store();
+        let saved = store
+            .insert_chat_item(&item)
+            .and_then(|()| store.insert_approval(&record));
+        if let Err(err) = saved {
+            warn!(bot = %bot, "could not save an approval: {err}");
+            return None;
+        }
     }
-    Some(Pending { record })
+    let (answer, waiting) = oneshot::channel();
+    daemon
+        .approvals
+        .lock()
+        .insert(record.approval.id.clone(), answer);
+    items::announce(daemon, item);
+    Some((Pending { record }, waiting))
 }
 
 fn item_of(
diff --git a/crates/botloftd/tests/approval_order.rs b/crates/botloftd/tests/approval_order.rs
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..f6f1080f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/crates/botloftd/tests/approval_order.rs
@@ -0,0 +1,65 @@
+//! A request for the owner is saved and waited on before the chat shows it
+//! (spec 10.1): an answer sent the moment it shows always lands.
+
+mod common;
+
+use botloft_core::protocol::{ApprovalsAnswerParams, BotState, ChatBody};
+use botloftd::state::Event;
+use common::TestDaemon;
+use common::mcp::Mcp;
+use serde_json::json;
+
+#[tokio::test(flavor = "multi_thread")]
+async fn an_answer_the_moment_the_request_shows_lands() {
+    let t = TestDaemon::start_supervised().await;
+    let mut app = t.session().await;
+    let lead = json!({ "name": "Chefe", "role": "Leads", "instructions": "Build the site" });
+    let crew = app
+        .call("crews.create", json!({ "name": "Site", "lead": lead }))
+        .await
+        .expect("crew");
+    let bots = app
+        .call("bots.list", json!({ "crewId": crew["id"] }))
+        .await
+        .expect("bots");
+    let chief = bots[0].clone();
+    let process = t.process_of(&chief).await;
+    t.until_state(&chief, BotState::Idle).await;
+    let mut mcp = Mcp::new(t.addr, process.env("BOTLOFT_BOT_TOKEN").expect("token"));
+
+    for round in 0..20 {
+        let mut events = t.daemon.subscribe();
+        let suggestion = json!({
+            "name": format!("Designer {round}"),
+            "role": "Draws each page",
+            "instructions": "Design the pages.",
+            "reason": "The site needs a look.",
+        });
+        let suggesting = tokio::spawn({
+            let mut mcp = Mcp::new(mcp.addr, mcp.token.clone());
+            async move { mcp.tool("suggest_bot", suggestion).await }
+        });
+        let approval_id = loop {
+            if let Ok(Event::ChatItem(changed)) = events.recv().await
+                && let ChatBody::Approval(item) = changed.item.body
+            {
+                break item.approval_id;
+            }
+        };
+        // No wait at all between seeing it and answering.
+        let answer: ApprovalsAnswerParams =
+            serde_json::from_value(json!({ "approvalId": approval_id, "allow": false }))
+                .expect("params");
+        botloftd::approvals::answer(&t.daemon, answer).expect("the request is there");
+        // And the bot hears it at once, not when the request runs out.
+        let refused = tokio::time::timeout(std::time::Duration::from_secs(5), suggesting)
+            .await
+            .expect("the bot heard the answer")
+            .expect("task")
+            .expect("tool");
+        assert_eq!(refused["created"], false, "{refused}");
+    }
+    mcp.tool("crew_roster", json!({}))
+        .await
+        .expect("still fine");
+}
diff --git a/docs/spec.md b/docs/spec.md
index f76ea233..4911cdcb 100644
--- a/docs/spec.md
+++ b/docs/spec.md
@@ -576,7 +576,7 @@ Endereçamento só dentro da crew. Bot não enxerga bots nem tasks de outras cre
 
 Com `--permission-prompt-tool mcp__botloft__permission_prompt`, toda ferramenta que precisaria de permissão chama a tool `permission_prompt`. A entrada é `{tool_name, input, tool_use_id}` (documentado; visto com 2.1.284).
 
-1. O daemon grava uma `approval` (`pending`) e o item `approval` no chat, e passa o bot para `needs_approval`.
+1. O daemon grava uma `approval` (`pending`) e o item `approval` no chat, e passa o bot para `needs_approval`. A ordem importa: grava o item e o pedido, passa a esperar a resposta e só então avisa o app (`chat.item`). Avisando antes, um app rápido respondia a um pedido que ainda não estava no banco (`not found`, visto no CI do Linux), ou a resposta chegava antes da espera e o bot só a ouvia quando o pedido expirava.
 2. A chamada HTTP fica aberta até o dono responder (`approvals.answer {approvalId, allow, note?}`) ou até `approval_timeout_minutes`, que o dono escolhe nas Configurações (15 min a 8 h no app; o daemon aceita de 1 min a 1 dia). O `timeout` do `mcp.json` (10) só é lido quando o Claude Code inicia: aumentada a espera, cada bot reinicia quando nada estiver em andamento; diminuída, o daemon responde antes e nada reinicia.
 3. Resposta ao Claude Code, em texto JSON:
    - Permitir: `{"behavior":"allow","updatedInput":<input original>}`.